So, I just got home from my ovarian ultrasound.. This was my third round on Femara/Letrozole. As you might recall, it worked the first cycle (I got a mature follicle), but didn't work the second time.
Given the 50/50 outcome, I wasn't sure what to expect on the third try.
So I took my meds, did my yoga.. everything the same as both times before.
On Tuesday afternoon, I got a call from the doc's office, saying that no ultrasound tech was going to be in Lafayette on Friday, so I'd have to come to Indianapolis at 8am to get it done.
Freaking fantastic.
I was immediately annoyed. Now I had to drive an hour out of my way, in rush hour traffic, to probably get news of absolutely nothing.
Luckily, my wonderful husband decided he'd go into work late, so that he could drive me.
So we got up at the crack of dawn to head towards Indy.. to an office in which I'd never been.
Upon our arrival, we made our way to the second floor of the medical building. Looking for the correct suite number.
Found it.
Paused.
This was a tiiiiiiiiny waiting room, filled with anxious women.
Literally, there were only 6 chairs, and the room was half the size of our bedroom. I immediately chuckled to myself as I thought, "This is going to be fun to write about later."
I walked into this tiny space, lit only by two very dim table lamps. There was a clipboard sitting next to a clock... just outside the receptionist's window. Nobody said hello. In fact, nobody said one word the entire time I was in there.
So, I signed in on the clipboard. Moments later, a mysterious hand reaches out from behind the sliding plastic window, pulls my name from the top, sets the clipboard back down.. then slides the window shut again.
No hello. No smile. The receptionist literally made no eye contact with anyone in that room.
This was the most bizarre waiting room I'd ever been in.
All the women huddled in the darkness, away from the silent/avoiding receptionist. The awkwardness was palpable.
No radio. No television.
Each woman pretending not to know why everyone else was there. Some nervously typing, with an annoying clicking, on their blackberry phones. Others, browsing Us Weekly. None of us making any eye contact with each other.
I sat there, wondering what phase these women were in. Which medications? How much had they spent?
And do I want to keep doing this?
This life of waiting rooms, debt, tension, sadness.. It never looked appealing. But this made it look dreadful.
I know some women will literally do "whatever it takes." I don't think I'm one of those women. I've never felt like I "needed" to be a mother. I just felt like I'd be a good one.
Just not sure how much I'm willing to spend.. in physical, emotional, and financial costs.. in order to prove myself right.
Finally, they called my name from behind the door. That's right, they didn't even walk out into the waiting room to greet you.
Two seconds later, I'm in an even smaller room, with the all-familiar stirrups. And the room was almost completely pitch black. Just the glow of one dim lamp reflecting off the assortment of medical instruments.
"Just get undressed from the waist down, and I'll be right back." said the big black woman who walked me here. Apparently, she was the ultrasound tech.
This routine, I knew well. Let the scanning begin!
Left ovary. Lots of follicles.. none large enough.
Right ovary. Lots of follicles.. none large enough.
Well, that was a waste of a trip.. and $200.
So, she instructs me to return to the waiting room, because I'll be meeting with a nurse.
Ah, maybe to discuss meds? Talk about costs of more intensive options? Who knows. So I wait.
"Carol." I hear from behind the door again. I open it to walk down the hall, and there's a nurse.. shoving an invoice in my face.
"Well, everything looks okay. Just hand this to Miss So-and-so and she'll get you taken care of."
Ugh. What?
Miss So-and-so was standing all of 6 inches from us.. so I turned and handed it to her. She stated the total, took and swiped my credit card. I guess that's all Miss So-and-so needed from me.. that the nurse couldn't directly hand to her. :/
And here's the WORST part.
As I'm paying my $220 ultrasound bill, the overly highlighted nurse says, "So, everything looks good here. So, go ahead and take your injection tonight."
I look at her probably with a mix of 'puzzled' and 'disgusted' across my face.
She looks confused, "You're on the booster shot, right?"
I sternly reply, "I didn't think any of the follicles were big enough... so..."
She looks down at the chart, scanning it up and down.. like a pre-schooler pretending to read. "Ummmm. Yeah. You're.. uh.. right. Sorry." Followed by silence as I'm signing my receipt.
Finally, as I go to grab my copy of the receipt and walk out, the half-comatose nurse murmurs to me, "Yeah, so.. we'll call you. We'll have to ask him about that."
Sure thing lady.
The whole experience at this office was so weird. From unprofessional, to strange, and right back to unprofessional. Luckily, I wasn't really on edge or emotional, or I probably would have burst into tears when I corrected the idiot nurse who's telling me to go ahead with the injections because everything looks "okay."
So, then the long drive home.
I wasn't really sad.. just left feeling like.. now what? Do we try the next step (injectables), or do we just admit that this isn't working, and accept a life without children?
It's hard enough answering that question for myself.. Let alone agreeing on a plan of action with another person who is equally involved in the matter... My husband.
About halfway home, I turned the radio off and asked, "So, what's next?"
He didn't know any more than I did.
We talked about the costs. Injectables cost $3000-5000 every cycle. A far cry from the $300-400 we're spending now.
But, they're much more likely to work.
So, we had to discuss regrets. Would we regret when we're 50, that we didn't spend $9000 to try to have kids? Was it worth risking?
Is it even feasible? We're doing 'okay' right now.. but I have some dental work coming up. Can we afford that much debt? Is it worth getting a second job?
The only things we could agree on were these:
1) If we spent $9000, and I got pregnant, we wouldn't regret spending the money.
2) If we spend the $9000, and I didn't get pregnant, we weren't sure if we'd regret trying or not.. but probably not. Because then we'd at least be able to say we gave it the good college try.
3) It's hard to rationalize spending $15000 on a one-day wedding, but not $9000 on a possible child.
4) We could cut straight to adoption, IF we decide that's an option for us, but you're still looking at $15000-20000 in costs there anyway.
Conclusion:
For now, we're going to wait a few months. First, I want to be sure it's worth the risk (financially and physically). Then, I feel like we should be squared away with a house before risking large sums of money on fertility. And I don't want to take out a loan for treatments, that could impact our ability to even get a mortgage.
But on a truly honest level, the more I'm going through this.. the less it feels like a "need." I think after you get married, it seems like it's the normal next step. And while the possibility of that not happening is a difficult thing to face; sometimes torturous when you imagine yourself at 60 with no children or grandchildren.. it's something I'm coming to grips with.
And the only reason I know that I'm coming to (or returning to) a place of being okay without children.. is that half the time, I'm thinking about all the money we would save, the extra free time, the places we could go, and things we could do.. without children in tow.
I think of all the ways I could use my maternal instincts; animal sanctuaries, adopting more dogs, etc.
But there's still that other 'half of the time' .. when I imagine what our child would be like. Brad's eyes, my nose, and hopefully my math and science nerdiness.. And I REALLY want to meet that person.
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Friday, August 17, 2012
Monday, August 6, 2012
Third Time
I know it's been awhile.
We took a break for a bit. Then decided to wait til my mother had moved out to try again. My stress level was just always so high when she was around.. nevermind the logistics of TTC with mother down the hall :P
So, we've officially started our third attempt with Letrozole/Femara.
A little scary. Since the first cycle, we got a follicle. The second one, we didn't. And the doc said that he only wants to give it three tries.
Problem is, we can't really afford the next (bigger, badder) options. The Femara alone, once you add in the monthly ultrasounds and the trigger shots, is around $300-$400 per attempt. That seems plenty high to me.
The injection rounds are somewhere in the thousands of dollars. Eh. Doubtful.
So, we'll see how this goes. And then how pathetically the doctor will look at me when I try to explain that daily injections and IVF are not options for us.
We took a break for a bit. Then decided to wait til my mother had moved out to try again. My stress level was just always so high when she was around.. nevermind the logistics of TTC with mother down the hall :P
So, we've officially started our third attempt with Letrozole/Femara.
A little scary. Since the first cycle, we got a follicle. The second one, we didn't. And the doc said that he only wants to give it three tries.
Problem is, we can't really afford the next (bigger, badder) options. The Femara alone, once you add in the monthly ultrasounds and the trigger shots, is around $300-$400 per attempt. That seems plenty high to me.
The injection rounds are somewhere in the thousands of dollars. Eh. Doubtful.
So, we'll see how this goes. And then how pathetically the doctor will look at me when I try to explain that daily injections and IVF are not options for us.
Monday, May 14, 2012
Wedding Cake and Hot Flashes
My last post was fairly brief, and only said that the cost of one of my meds had gone down and that I had another ovarian ultrasound coming soon. Well, that ultrasound was today... but before I get to that, let me set up this cycle a bit.
This time around, I wasn't stressing at all. In fact, there were a couple times I almost forgot to take my meds; it was so far in the back of my mind. I also almost forgot what day my ultrasound was on. Being less 'aware' and focused on the calendar, made this cycle a little easier to get through in general.
This past weekend, my husband and I were at a wedding. A couple there, that we're friends with, had also been going through issues with infertility. The wife blurted out that she was now almost 3 months pregnant. She thought I had already been told, but I hadn't. So, I was surprised.. sure. Upset? No. In fact, the only thing that bothered me was that when I congratulated her, I could see the pity on her face.. but it was different from the usual. This was someone who could empathize with how it felt to be trying and failing to get pregnant. She was afraid to look happy in front of me, because she didn't want to rub it in my face. I reassured her that it was okay, and that I was sincerely happy for them.
And, I was telling the truth. I didn't feel even the slightest wave of jealousy.. but as I started contemplating the whole weekend. First, finding out our once 'infertile' friends were pregnant, the next day being Mother's Day, followed by my ultrasound.. it felt like there was a rock sitting in my gut. I wasn't mad, nervous, or jealous. Just uncomfortable.
I was aware that I hadn't felt any sharp pains, like I had with the first cycle on these meds.. so I was betting they hadn't worked. That's my pessimistic nature, anyway.
This morning (CD10), as I was leaving to go to my appointment, my husband said, "Hope we get good news."
Ugh. Why did he have to say that? At that point, in my bones, I knew this cycle hadn't worked.
So, I arrive to my appointment; first patient in the waiting room. After about ten minutes, the tech arrives; and calls me back. Just like last time, I go into the side bathroom, and wrap what literally is a large paper towel around my waist.. and head for the table. Briefly, I wonder if I should wear my socks. I had just painted my nails purple for the wedding and they still looked cute.
I decided the tech would probably not be impressed by shiny toenails. Socks stayed on. LOL
So I scoot down and she does the standard exam. Uterine lining. Good. Right ovary.. a few follicles, nothing large enough.
She then asks if I'm on injections. I answer, "No. Just letrozole."
Left ovary.. a few more follicles.. nothing large enough.
The tech said nothing, but I knew from last time the size they were looking for.. and none of these qualified. As we're finishing, the tech says, "Everything looks good."
Good? Compared to what, exactly? The largest follicle was 10mm, and they need to be around 18mm.
I get dressed and walk out, where she's getting ready to fax my results. She then asks (again) if I'm on injections. I tell her no, just the trigger shot. She doesn't even look at me, and says, "Oh. So you already took your fertility meds.. So these should be...." She just abruptly stops talking, but never looks up. So I say, "Yeah. None big enough."
So, unfortunately, I was right. The meds did nothing this time. No idea why they worked the first month, and not this one. That was a whole lot of hot flashes for nothing :/
A nurse from the doc's office called me a couple hours later, telling me what I already knew.. That none of the follicles were large enough to warrant the trigger shot, and that we can try one more round of this medication, or try something else.
What nobody really wants to grasp is that there is nothing else for us. We can NOT afford the next options. I don't have an extra grand sitting around every month.. just to "try." I don't know many people who do.
That is the part that is actually most exhausting. Not the planning, or marking the calendar, or scheduling the medications... but coping with the idea that "You can't afford to conceive a child." That is a really hard pill to swallow. That I don't have enough money to overcome a defect of mine.
And it's something that is even harder to say out loud. I'm dreading the meeting with my doctor when I have to tell him, "The next steps just aren't possible for us. This has to work, or we're not having children."
It literally feels like someone who's got two quarters left to their name and they're standing in front of a slot machine. Knowing that if they don't strike it big on the next two tries.. they won't even be able to get home.
So, I spent the day on the verge of tears.. but didn't actually cry until my husband got home and asked me how I was doing. I think what makes me fall apart isn't the 'bad news' .. it's feeling like a disappointment to him.. no matter how much he reassures me that's not the case.
This time around, I wasn't stressing at all. In fact, there were a couple times I almost forgot to take my meds; it was so far in the back of my mind. I also almost forgot what day my ultrasound was on. Being less 'aware' and focused on the calendar, made this cycle a little easier to get through in general.
This past weekend, my husband and I were at a wedding. A couple there, that we're friends with, had also been going through issues with infertility. The wife blurted out that she was now almost 3 months pregnant. She thought I had already been told, but I hadn't. So, I was surprised.. sure. Upset? No. In fact, the only thing that bothered me was that when I congratulated her, I could see the pity on her face.. but it was different from the usual. This was someone who could empathize with how it felt to be trying and failing to get pregnant. She was afraid to look happy in front of me, because she didn't want to rub it in my face. I reassured her that it was okay, and that I was sincerely happy for them.
And, I was telling the truth. I didn't feel even the slightest wave of jealousy.. but as I started contemplating the whole weekend. First, finding out our once 'infertile' friends were pregnant, the next day being Mother's Day, followed by my ultrasound.. it felt like there was a rock sitting in my gut. I wasn't mad, nervous, or jealous. Just uncomfortable.
I was aware that I hadn't felt any sharp pains, like I had with the first cycle on these meds.. so I was betting they hadn't worked. That's my pessimistic nature, anyway.
This morning (CD10), as I was leaving to go to my appointment, my husband said, "Hope we get good news."
Ugh. Why did he have to say that? At that point, in my bones, I knew this cycle hadn't worked.
So, I arrive to my appointment; first patient in the waiting room. After about ten minutes, the tech arrives; and calls me back. Just like last time, I go into the side bathroom, and wrap what literally is a large paper towel around my waist.. and head for the table. Briefly, I wonder if I should wear my socks. I had just painted my nails purple for the wedding and they still looked cute.
I decided the tech would probably not be impressed by shiny toenails. Socks stayed on. LOL
So I scoot down and she does the standard exam. Uterine lining. Good. Right ovary.. a few follicles, nothing large enough.
She then asks if I'm on injections. I answer, "No. Just letrozole."
Left ovary.. a few more follicles.. nothing large enough.
The tech said nothing, but I knew from last time the size they were looking for.. and none of these qualified. As we're finishing, the tech says, "Everything looks good."
Good? Compared to what, exactly? The largest follicle was 10mm, and they need to be around 18mm.
I get dressed and walk out, where she's getting ready to fax my results. She then asks (again) if I'm on injections. I tell her no, just the trigger shot. She doesn't even look at me, and says, "Oh. So you already took your fertility meds.. So these should be...." She just abruptly stops talking, but never looks up. So I say, "Yeah. None big enough."
So, unfortunately, I was right. The meds did nothing this time. No idea why they worked the first month, and not this one. That was a whole lot of hot flashes for nothing :/
A nurse from the doc's office called me a couple hours later, telling me what I already knew.. That none of the follicles were large enough to warrant the trigger shot, and that we can try one more round of this medication, or try something else.
What nobody really wants to grasp is that there is nothing else for us. We can NOT afford the next options. I don't have an extra grand sitting around every month.. just to "try." I don't know many people who do.
That is the part that is actually most exhausting. Not the planning, or marking the calendar, or scheduling the medications... but coping with the idea that "You can't afford to conceive a child." That is a really hard pill to swallow. That I don't have enough money to overcome a defect of mine.
And it's something that is even harder to say out loud. I'm dreading the meeting with my doctor when I have to tell him, "The next steps just aren't possible for us. This has to work, or we're not having children."
It literally feels like someone who's got two quarters left to their name and they're standing in front of a slot machine. Knowing that if they don't strike it big on the next two tries.. they won't even be able to get home.
So, I spent the day on the verge of tears.. but didn't actually cry until my husband got home and asked me how I was doing. I think what makes me fall apart isn't the 'bad news' .. it's feeling like a disappointment to him.. no matter how much he reassures me that's not the case.
Sunday, May 6, 2012
Back At It, With A Refund
Well, after almost two months off, we're back at it. Well, not "it" .. yet ;) But I've begun another cycle of treatment.
And as trying and expensive as this can be, I did get some good (although weird) news.
When I called the pharmacy we use (it specializes in fertility meds), to refill my two prescriptions for this cycle (ovidrel and femara), the lady took my order and gave me a total. Problem was, the total was over a hundred dollars less than it was in January. After she gave me the total, I literally said, "And that's for which one of the medicines?" She responded, "Both."
I was skeptical, and waited for my debit card to billed the correct amount.
A few days later, the meds arrived.. and to my surprise, I was only billed the quoted amount. So, then I became curious, because I KNEW I had paid so much more last time. Within a few minutes, I found my old receipt. And for the letrozole (generic femara), the cost went from $180 in January, to $40 in April?!
I called the pharmacy, hoping that I'd luck out and the first time I was overcharged. It took several phone calls to get a hold of someone with an answer. As it turns out, I was sort of a guinea pig back in January. What I didn't know, was that the letrozole had just been released and was brand new on the market. With the passing of just a couple months, even more drug companies started making it, so the price plummeted.
So, as odd a feeling as it was to know that I was one of the first to try it, it was a relief knowing that going forward, our meds would cost almost $150 less each month. That should give us a little breathing room, anyway. (Not that the whole process is suddenly cheap, but I'll take what I can get.)
Much to my surprise, a few days later, I had a voicemail from the pharmacy; stating that they saw that I had called about a price difference between my two orders, and that as a one time courtesy, they'd refund the difference...
I swore I misunderstood the voicemail. No way are they going to refund $140, when they don't really owe it to me, and I didn't even ask for it. Right?
Wrong. A few days later, it was credited to my account.
Color me impressed. :)
So, if you find yourself in a situation like mine, ask your doctor to send your scripts to Freedom Fertility Pharmacy. Customer service doesn't get much better than that!
I just started my letrozole today, and will have my ovarian ultrasound in a couple weeks, to see if it worked. *fingers crossed*
And as trying and expensive as this can be, I did get some good (although weird) news.
When I called the pharmacy we use (it specializes in fertility meds), to refill my two prescriptions for this cycle (ovidrel and femara), the lady took my order and gave me a total. Problem was, the total was over a hundred dollars less than it was in January. After she gave me the total, I literally said, "And that's for which one of the medicines?" She responded, "Both."
I was skeptical, and waited for my debit card to billed the correct amount.
A few days later, the meds arrived.. and to my surprise, I was only billed the quoted amount. So, then I became curious, because I KNEW I had paid so much more last time. Within a few minutes, I found my old receipt. And for the letrozole (generic femara), the cost went from $180 in January, to $40 in April?!
I called the pharmacy, hoping that I'd luck out and the first time I was overcharged. It took several phone calls to get a hold of someone with an answer. As it turns out, I was sort of a guinea pig back in January. What I didn't know, was that the letrozole had just been released and was brand new on the market. With the passing of just a couple months, even more drug companies started making it, so the price plummeted.
So, as odd a feeling as it was to know that I was one of the first to try it, it was a relief knowing that going forward, our meds would cost almost $150 less each month. That should give us a little breathing room, anyway. (Not that the whole process is suddenly cheap, but I'll take what I can get.)
Much to my surprise, a few days later, I had a voicemail from the pharmacy; stating that they saw that I had called about a price difference between my two orders, and that as a one time courtesy, they'd refund the difference...
I swore I misunderstood the voicemail. No way are they going to refund $140, when they don't really owe it to me, and I didn't even ask for it. Right?
Wrong. A few days later, it was credited to my account.
Color me impressed. :)
So, if you find yourself in a situation like mine, ask your doctor to send your scripts to Freedom Fertility Pharmacy. Customer service doesn't get much better than that!
I just started my letrozole today, and will have my ovarian ultrasound in a couple weeks, to see if it worked. *fingers crossed*
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